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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 19:45:00 -
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Surprise surprise, the religion of peace strikes again.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 20:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Meet the American Taliban. Its a shame they arrested this guy, they should have ventilated him while they had the chance.
There was also Colleen "Jihad Jane" LaRose.
And while early reports are usually wrong, there's really only one religion in the world right now that has a remarkably consistent pattern of car bombings and purposeful targetting of innocents with the intent of maximizing death toll. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that Islam is once again the driving force behind a similar attack.
Is there a *chance* that it's not? Sure. But the fact that the odds are so heavily skewed for this sort event being tied to Islam that it is immediately everyone's first assumption (whether they admit it or not) says a lot about the religion. It would actually be more newsworthy if it wasn't a Muslim terrorist, since it would be out of the ordinary.
I also can't help but notice that many of those in the media today who are parroting the "Don't make assumptions" mantra are the same ones who immediately tried to smear the Tea Party with the Gabrielle Giffords shooting. And when that turned out to be wrong, and the guy turn out to be a leftist nut with a fondness for Marx, they had no interest in reporting it.
But when it comes to something that has all the hallmarks of Islamic terrorism, oh heaven forbid we assume.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 21:05:58
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Easy conclusions to be drawn, he's one of the scandinavia for scandinavians people, rightwinger going after the leftist youth as they are easier to shoot than debate with.
Is the right in Scandinavia typically violent?
Here in the United States, the number one perpetrators of terrorism are radical environmental leftists, followed by Islam. Right wing terror ranks last.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 21:45:22
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Fox news called. They want their bull**** back.
The FBI called. They offered to help pry your foot from your mouth.
From 2002-2005:
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005
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In keeping with a longstanding trend, domestic extremists carried out the majority of terrorist incidents during this period. Twenty three of the 24 recorded terrorist incidents were perpetrated by domestic terrorists. With the exception of a white supremacistÆs firebombing of a synagogue in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, all of the domestic terrorist incidents were committed by special interest extremists active in the animal rights and environmental movements.
http://articles.cnn.com/2005-05-19/us/domestic.terrorism_1_animal-rights-huntingdon-animal-cruelty-alf?_s=PM:US
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John Lewis, the FBI's deputy assistant director for counterterrorism, said animal and environmental rights extremists have claimed credit for more than 1,200 criminal incidents since 1990. The FBI has 150 pending investigations associated with animal rights or eco-terrorist activities, and ATF officials say they have opened 58 investigations in the past six years related to violence attributed to the ELF and ALF.
From 2008:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2008/june/ecoterror_063008
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Together, eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists are one of the most serious domestic terrorism threats in the U.S. todayàfor several good reasons:
*The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979);
*The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million since 1979);
*The wide range of victims (from international corporations to lumber companies to animal testing facilities to genetic research firms); and
*Their increasingly violent rhetoric and tactics (one recent communiquT sent to a California product testing company said: ôYou might be able to protect your buildings, but can you protect the homes of every employee?ö).
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html
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"It remains what we would probably consider the No. 1 domestic terrorism threat, because they have successfully continued to conduct different types of attacks in and around the country," said FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko.
There's also a fantastic pie chart that the FBI published that I will post when I find it. It shows terrorism in the US, sliced by group. Right wing is a tiny little slice. Left wing/environ/animal a massive slice. I really should have that one saved for people in denial like you. 
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html
Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.
Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.
I put that there because I knew you would only see that and totally ignore the FBI and CNN. Predictable left wing tool.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:21:10
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Wow, a whole $110 million in 30 years?
That surely makes the Oklahoma bombings with 165 killed, over 700 injured and $15 million just in direct bomb damage pale in comparison. 
I'd wager that counting indirect damage that single attack cost way over $110 million.
One isolated terrorist act worth 300m is still only one incident. And if the perpetrators are caught, the threat is likely over.
2000 terrorists acts related by group affiliation, even if they only cause 110m of damage by comparison, is an organized terrorist movement and a active threat to public safety and private property.
And the FBI has finite resources. I doubt they waste their time investigating tagged phoneboothes. 
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
(see Palin's crazed fan shooting AZ rep).
Wow, you are just ****ing ignorant of all fact aren't you?
Jared Loughner had a copy of the Communist manifesto and his friends said he would well up in rage at the very mention of George W Bush.
Sounds a lot like you actually.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
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How many deaths in those 2000 acts of terrorism?
I've never read anything about related deaths, but any time you set fire to a building you risk the lives of the first responders.
If you go by number of deaths, Islamic terror comes out on top for the United States. If you go by sheer volume of attacks, it's radical leftists.
But you also have to look at the goals. The goal of an Islamic terrorist is to maximize body count. The goal of an ELF/ALF member is usually the destruction of property. Both are very successful at what they intend to do. Obviously radicalized Muslims are a greater threat to your personal safety, but that doesn't mean you ignore the threat posed by the others.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:42:20
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Statistically, being struck by lightning is a far bigger threat to my personal safety than both, and given such an event may set my clothes on fire to my property as well.
You know, I thought about qualifying that statement because I knew someone would say exactly that. I'm talking about the realm of terrorist acts, obviously, but yes, both are unlikely to happen to you.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.22 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 23:38:34
Originally by: Chepe Nolon
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254
You know he kinda even looks like Anders from Dragon Age.
I imagine this Anders will get a significantly less severe sentence than I gave the video game one.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Hey, don't blame me for being right about this muslim thing being a false lead.
You were speculating early on as much as anyone else. I took the odds on favorite, you took a long odds. Every once in a while, the worst bet wins. Doesn't change the fact that almost any other incident like this turns out to be Muslim radicals. You have every right to be a contrarian, but the fact is when people trip over themselves to fill the Muslim apologist role in threads like these, the culprit almost always turns out to be Muslim.
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In washington it's mostly shades of grey, despite what out-of-the-loop fundamentalists like yourself want to believe.
Hate to break it to you, but being a low level parasite on the federal government teet doesn't put you in any loop.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/07/2011 01:49:01
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
I rather enjoy basking in your ignorance
You mean ignorance like dismissing FBI reports as Fox News propaganda, even when they come from the FBI website?
Or do you mean ignorance as in just learning today that Jared Loughner wasn't a Tea Partier?
Anways, enjoy your paychecks while they last. If there's one good thing about our nation spending its way into financial oblivion, it's that eventually we won't be able to afford wasting dollars on bureaucrats -- or their pensions. I very much look forward to the delicious QQs of federal workers in the coming years.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
The police conference just reported that 80 peoples are killed on Ut°ya ALONE.
Jesus christ.
Where is that being reported? I've been talking to a friend in Norway who had a family member at the camp during the shooting, and I'm only hearing 10 dead and "several critical."  Hard to say what all his niece saw though but the island looked very small to me.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
You know, we really should get our own thread going instead of ****ting up this one. 
Agreed. Will confine my comments to the event at hand.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sofa Raddis
Wilkus I hope you choke on your stupidity.
Wilkus made the reasonable assumption given the facts available. Car bombing in a major metro setting and a soft target attack with a purposefully high death toll (very Mumbai-like). For events like this, the culprits are almost always Muslim.
If this one isn't, it's noteworthy.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/07/2011 02:56:56
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Since these facts were known with the inital media coverage of the incident, he didnt make a reasonable assumption at all. At least not reasonable for the somewhat educated and non-extremist part of the population.
There was a lot of speculation at the time (here at least) that the target might have been the office of a newspaper that ran the Mohammed cartoons. I guess they have a presence or a HQ in the area of the blast -- or perhaps not and it was just early inaccurate info.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/07/2011 04:14:06
Originally by: ChaeDoc II
How are CCW permits and the death penalty working for the United States in combating gun crime?
Fool.
CCL holders are the least likely perpetrators of crime among measured groups, at least here in Texas. 14 times less likely to commit a crime than the general public.
Also, somewhat related, somewhat not: Dunno how accurate the info is, but my Norwegian friend says that the gun used was a military issued AK-47. I didn't know Norway used the AK, but since he was in the Norwegian army himself, I'll take his word for it.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.07.23 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel
I mean it was practically a 1 in 10 guess right?
More like a 9 out of 10 chance really.
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